tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6239694080870817712.post8977629953073293422..comments2024-03-01T01:07:13.368-07:00Comments on No, but seriously: F1's hopes destroyed in the US againSteven Pricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01856604112181023270noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6239694080870817712.post-14089884733938452902013-03-31T13:10:39.497-06:002013-03-31T13:10:39.497-06:00It's for all years. Last year the best seats w...It's for all years. Last year the best seats were T1 grandstand or end of the pit straight.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15322134770888868709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6239694080870817712.post-47867272485492240672013-03-31T12:16:29.097-06:002013-03-31T12:16:29.097-06:00Was this for last year? What ended up being the b...Was this for last year? What ended up being the best seat?<br /><br />T1?jordanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15457832128338855773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6239694080870817712.post-61651650163942843222012-07-22T18:50:35.834-06:002012-07-22T18:50:35.834-06:00Good grief, read what Chris writes! He is specific...Good grief, read what Chris writes! He is specifically talking about the makin straight, not T1.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15041821712022471596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6239694080870817712.post-79610074526876290242012-07-19T14:04:02.714-06:002012-07-19T14:04:02.714-06:00As previously noted, PSL's are exceedingly rar...As previously noted, PSL's are exceedingly rare in motorsport. They are not "very common in all sports".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6239694080870817712.post-46077342636348979432012-07-19T14:00:47.557-06:002012-07-19T14:00:47.557-06:00He said "main straight", not T1. T1 is T...He said "main straight", not T1. T1 is T1. He's right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6239694080870817712.post-24371656159610454942012-07-19T13:58:10.335-06:002012-07-19T13:58:10.335-06:00True F1 fans are those most knowledgeable of the t...True F1 fans are those most knowledgeable of the true nature of the cost and tribulations of attending other F1 GPs, and most likely to understand how much is being done wrong with this approach.Timnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6239694080870817712.post-72278201685972109512012-07-19T13:55:19.844-06:002012-07-19T13:55:19.844-06:00"it alienates true F1 fans".
Indeed. T..."it alienates true F1 fans". <br /><br />Indeed. This point cannot be overstated, imho.Timnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6239694080870817712.post-87524438364586877572012-07-19T13:50:04.193-06:002012-07-19T13:50:04.193-06:00It's not common for motorsport venues. They si...It's not common for motorsport venues. They simply do not offer the frequent and varied high-profile content that allows a PSL purchase to make sense to the consumer.Timnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6239694080870817712.post-65273633216010496782012-07-19T13:45:43.917-06:002012-07-19T13:45:43.917-06:00Seriously? They aren't selling like you think....Seriously? They aren't selling like you think. 3-4k have been sold.Timnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6239694080870817712.post-26071607977219311362012-07-19T13:42:07.453-06:002012-07-19T13:42:07.453-06:00All N. American sports venues do this? Not the rac...All N. American sports venues do this? Not the race tracks, Steve.Timnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6239694080870817712.post-48616176360993773862012-07-17T07:37:42.784-06:002012-07-17T07:37:42.784-06:00@Hustler - no argument from me. Silverstone is mes...@Hustler - no argument from me. Silverstone is mess.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15322134770888868709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6239694080870817712.post-72569268574536684552012-07-16T21:04:53.077-06:002012-07-16T21:04:53.077-06:00It's better than going to the race at Silverst...It's better than going to the race at Silverstone.Hustlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05983913959520901166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6239694080870817712.post-32600368489562429882012-07-16T19:32:06.514-06:002012-07-16T19:32:06.514-06:00Your whining blog entry is very misinformed.
You...Your whining blog entry is very misinformed. <br /><br />You can get tickets for as little as $53 a day. You get access to the entire track, you just don't get a cushioned seat. <br /><br />If you want the best seats, you will have to pay for them. This is America, quit your whining and make some money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6239694080870817712.post-26694889723062624682012-07-16T17:17:09.032-06:002012-07-16T17:17:09.032-06:00Yeah you're right - if the T1 sightlines are a...Yeah you're right - if the T1 sightlines are as good as they say it'll be a good vantage point for the first-corner panic.<br />I'll admit I've looked around their site again today and I still can't find the actual PSL prices without the direct links posted elsewhere in these comments. <i>Where</i> are they? Every time I get as far as a "buy now" button it takes me to the same page asking for callback info.<br /><br />I'd love F1 to succeed here - not least of which because my travel costs will be less. Airbnb solves the accomodation problem if you can get in early. I just really have a bone to pick about this damned PSL thing. And yes I'm just some random commenter on the interwebs but it provoked some interesting comments. I was at the final fiaso of a race in Indy where the tyre manufacturers said 'no race' and that was a huge disappointment. (And FWIW I didn't need a PSL for main straight grandstand seating there.)<br /><br />Miller kept banging on about getting F1 to come to the new motorsports park here in Utah but he never really followed through. Nowhere near enough seating / accomodation / revenue potential. The track is great for a trackday blast and WSB but I can't really see F1 ever being there.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15322134770888868709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6239694080870817712.post-62921895329884996102012-07-16T16:34:10.551-06:002012-07-16T16:34:10.551-06:00Although I agree that T1 != main grandstand, you c...Although I agree that T1 != main grandstand, you can still see the main straight from T1 if we are to believe that the pictures posted on the T1 web page is accurate:<br /><br />http://circuitoftheamericas.com/tickets-psl/ticket_page/turn-1<br /><br />Look, you just need to admit that you didn't look hard enough for ticket pricing, and just leave it at that. <br /><br />We all want F1 to succeed in the U.S. and it doesn't help to keep complaining about every thing that COTA does wrong. It's the first time they're doing this and if they want to sustain it, they're going to have to fix what doesn't go well this time around.<br /><br />Finally, we're dealing with crazy Bernie. Anything that anybody does isn't going to be good enough for his constantly-changing whim. He doesn't give a sh*t as long as he gets his advertising/promotional dollars.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6239694080870817712.post-38039284531251241102012-07-16T16:15:55.838-06:002012-07-16T16:15:55.838-06:00I'm talking about the PSL tickets linked earli...I'm talking about the PSL tickets linked earlier. The cheapest was $2000 for the PSL plus $500 for a season ticket. = $2500.<br />T1 != main grandstand.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15322134770888868709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6239694080870817712.post-23213677468948223252012-07-16T16:11:24.275-06:002012-07-16T16:11:24.275-06:00This statement is incorrect:
"I'm used t...This statement is incorrect:<br /><br />"I'm used to stellar prices for F1 events but $2,500 for the cheapest main straight ticket is just taking the piss."<br /><br />You can purchase T1 tickets by going to this link:<br /><br />http://www.formula1.com/races/in_detail/united_states_882/circuit_diagram.html<br /><br />Then click on "Book Race Tickets".<br /><br />The cheapest T1 tickets are $876.80 plus fees. <br /><br />So you're about $1600 off.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6239694080870817712.post-45891482196210744562012-07-16T16:05:38.254-06:002012-07-16T16:05:38.254-06:00vfacundo - that's fine. I figured someone had ...vfacundo - that's fine. I figured someone had linked me given the sudden volume of posts :)<br />I have no problem with these comments.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15322134770888868709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6239694080870817712.post-25934423396068029222012-07-16T15:57:47.869-06:002012-07-16T15:57:47.869-06:00Chris, I posted a link of your blog comments on th...Chris, I posted a link of your blog comments on the Friends of Formula 1 Facebook page. Our followers haven't received your point of view very well. To be fair I posted your last comment on our page to give you equal time. Best regards, VanceVFacundohttp://www.facebook.com/FoF1ATXnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6239694080870817712.post-58470996677815089352012-07-16T14:42:46.361-06:002012-07-16T14:42:46.361-06:00For all of those calling me lazy - go to circuitof...For all of those calling me lazy - go to circuitoftheamericas.com. Click 'tickets' at the top of the page (or any of the three main links on the front page). Under 'premium grandstand seating' click "click here to buy now". That gets you to the 'now available' page. Now click "BUY NOW" under any of the four areas and you'll get a page telling you fill in a form so that a "premium sales representative" can contact you. So I'm sorry if clicking on the "buy now" buttons doesn't actually allow me to buy anything, but that hardly makes me lazy.<br /><br />As for not posting my name - umm - look on the right hand side of the blog. Where it says "Chris". PS. The irony of an anonymous poster making that comment is beyond words.<br /><br />Look - the PSL is expensive, and it alienates true F1 fans. At every other circuit on the calendar there is no restriction on any seat. If you want a grandstand seat, you buy a ticket and watch the race. Nowhere else do you have to commit to a long-term contract. I know this is how America might do things, but this is not how F1 does things. Look at the fans everywhere else in the world. They're not going to want to buy a PSL just to get a seat, so they're not going to bother. Yes there are plenty of other grandstands around the circuit but they don't afford a view of the main straight which is a very entertaining place to be during pit stops and in the pre-race sessions when all the activity surrounds the cars on the grid. That's where a lot of fans would like to be and it's the one place COTA has made absolutely sure we can't be without spending a small fortune.<br /><br />I'm used to stellar prices for F1 events but $2,500 for the cheapest main straight ticket is just taking the piss. I can get two three-day main straight passes and four nights in a hotel in Singapore for that price. AND I don't have to commit to going back for the next 15 years.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15322134770888868709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6239694080870817712.post-86489996348583791252012-07-16T14:30:11.522-06:002012-07-16T14:30:11.522-06:00I am stunned by the lack of research and misinform...I am stunned by the lack of research and misinformation posted by the blogger. As many have said, the PSL policy and prices have been published for months. There are also grandstand seats available that don't require the purchase of a PSL and range in price from $299 to $499. <br /><br />The publicized hotel and transportation will be a problem, but I don't see how this is much different than Silverstone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6239694080870817712.post-77885828097833029062012-07-16T14:17:10.477-06:002012-07-16T14:17:10.477-06:00You can buy tickets for T1 and T15 at formula1.com...You can buy tickets for T1 and T15 at formula1.com.<br /><br />If you can't afford $900-$1500 for those tickets, you shouldn't be complaining. It's Formula 1.<br /><br />BTW, PSL prices have been on their web-site for more than a few months. If you just clicked on "buy tickets now", then you still won't see those prices. You have to scroll down the page for each PSL turn (T1, T15, etc.) to see the pricing. Yes, it's not obvious, but it's untrue to say that it's not there.<br /><br />But then again, this is just some random blog. We can't expect world-class journalism from some random voice on the Internet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6239694080870817712.post-11743367708541091662012-07-16T13:59:14.132-06:002012-07-16T13:59:14.132-06:00You are pretty much an idiot. The PSL has been a ...You are pretty much an idiot. The PSL has been a part of the track's financial plan from very early (I have emails from 2011 about ticketing and it was very much publicized when the process was formalized. That is how you sell things. You tell people about it and they decide to buy or not. Google is your friend.<br /><br />http://www.autoweek.com/article/20120122/f1/120129966<br />http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1072036_circuit-of-the-americas-offers-personal-seat-licenses<br />http://www.statesman.com/sports/formula1/austin-circuit-organizers-offering-personal-seat-licenses-2117002.html<br /><br />I completed the first survey concerning ticket pricing and a seating packages in July last year. <br /><br />I'm not rich, just a fan of racing and specifically F1. I wanted what was offered by the PSL and bought it. Why? To not have to deal with getting online the day the tix go on sale to buy my seat. To not wonder where I'll be sitting this November and each November moving forward. To get access to on site parking. To have access to the air conditioned club level. To have the first right of refusal for any event added to the calendar. To potentially sell my seat license if I don't realize the anticipated added value of the PSL.<br /><br />The seat license is very common in all sports when new facilities are built. Don't be shocked when the grandstands in Jersey are PSL only.photobriangraynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6239694080870817712.post-52572444226993544692012-07-16T13:40:00.519-06:002012-07-16T13:40:00.519-06:00This is pretty common in the U.S. College basketba...This is pretty common in the U.S. College basketball and football and the NFL all use a seat license system. Frankly, I have no problem with it whatsoever and can't WAIT for the race in November. Now, the hotel issue...that's another story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6239694080870817712.post-61147892979329915592012-07-16T12:51:26.057-06:002012-07-16T12:51:26.057-06:00Lol, the super rich like "Mitt Romney and Don...Lol, the super rich like "Mitt Romney and Donald Trump." Of all the "super rich" that's what you came up with?<br /><br />These PSL's are already being bought up. Corporations pick them up so they have a myriad of attractions to use on guests or employees. The PSL gives you first access to every event of the year, which for COTA will be many things including concerts. This is exactly how Joe Schmo ends up sitting behind home plate when the home team plays a nobody. Those tickets get dumped on someone's project manager because "they did such a wonderful job the last couple of years they really deserve it" and when he doesn't want them he shops them out to the entire church...<br />But one things for sure, those will get sold.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com